[georss] [Mass-Market-GEO] OpenSearch Geo - Feedback

[Andrew Turner]

Carl Reed sensibly put forth:
>
> So, what is the problem we are trying to solve?

In specific response to *this* email thread (scope is nice), Cameron
posed these questions to me w/r/2 CSW & OpenSearch-Geo:

2. Explain why the Catalog spec doesn't suite your requirements. (Too
verbose?)

3. Ideally, note how terms in your specification align with Catalog
terms. This will ease implementation for search clients which aim to
address both protocols.

Stefan Keller asked how these two fit in with OAI-PMH.

So I think the current question is: what is the scope of these 3
specs, when is which appropriate, how would one 'convert' between them
or perhaps even wrap their primary service (say CSW) in a
lighter-weight definition (OpenSearch-Geo)

And again, say that all in < 1 page(1). :)


Andrew

Footnote: 1) "page" in this context denotes what a developer can
easily read, comprehend, and implement demo in 1 hr. Also known as a
"blog post" or "sensible email"

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Lake" <rlake at galdosinc.com>
> To: "Jason Cupp" <jcupp at esri.com>; <georss at lists.eogeo.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [georss] [Mass-Market-GEO] OpenSearch Geo - Feedback
>
>
> > Jason et al:
> >
> > One thing that would help in these discussions is to understand what one
> > means when we say "for the web".  Clearly all OGC services are intended
> > to function on the web and do to transactions, interact with one another
> > etc across the Internet.  Do you mean a particular suite of applications
> > "on the web" ?  How are these applications distinguished?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org
> > [mailto:georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org] On Behalf Of Jason Cupp
> > Sent: October 10, 2007 3:52 AM
> > To: georss at lists.eogeo.org
> > Subject: Re: [georss] [Mass-Market-GEO] OpenSearch Geo - Feedback
> >
> > Mass-market WWW began as static HTML pages... now it's AJAX, HTTP
> > services, etc... it evolves. Our realization and use of the Web changes
> > overtime in re-re-re-interpretation of REST principals and whatever
> > comes next.
> >
> > CSW was just right for it's time. Is it wrong for the Web NOW? Maybe,
> > that's why we have working groups. Is OpenSearch right for the Web 20
> > years from now? Maybe... maybe not. Can discovering GIS resources work
> > using CSW. Yes. Should we try to gain greater appeal by adopting more
> > suitable (accepted today) technology? Most think so. Would OpenSearch do
> > the trick? That's what we're trying to figure out...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Savage [mailto:cfis at savagexi.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:08 PM
> > To: Jason Cupp
> > Cc: georss at lists.eogeo.org
> > Subject: Re: [georss] [Mass-Market-GEO] OpenSearch Geo - Feedback
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> >> Everyone is struggling to get a web search API just right for their
> >> users;  CSW suffers the same way that all OGC services do in the
> > growing
> >> REST spotlight. For -which- web at -which- time, a moving target,
> > until
> >> people start getting real work done on top of it.
> >
> > Let me cordially disagree with your comment about the web.  I only see
> > one web - what other web are you seeing?
> >
> > Also, I'm not sure what you mean by -which- time?  And I'm sure I don't
> > understand your comment about "start getting real work done on top of
> > it."  On top of the web?  Really?
> >
> > Charlie
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