[georss] Geolocation by reference

Carl Reed OGC Account creed at opengeospatial.org
Sat Nov 10 10:35:59 EST 2007


Sean -

There is a rather large knowledge base on location by reference and standard 
approach that have been discussed and well defined by the GeoPRIV WG of the 
IETF (www.ietf.org/html.charters/geopriv-charter.html ). This work is a 
component of the definition of a standard expression of location objects 
(LO) for use in a number of internet standards. There are a number of 
internet standards (HELD, SIP, RADIUS, PIDF etc) that already reference as 
mandatory the formal expression of the LO. The expression may be by civic 
location (such as an address), by geodetic location (coordinate geometries 
using a GML application schema) or location by reference (which can be a 
combination of a number of ways of expressing location). These standards are 
being (or have been) implemented by the internet and communications 
infrastructure companies. These standards will also be an integral component 
of the NG 9-1-1 implementation.

Some of this work may be of help in what you are trying to do. Also, would 
be nice to stay aligned with the internet community :-)

Regards

Carl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Gillies" <sgillies at frii.com>
To: <georss at lists.eogeo.org>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:59 PM
Subject: [georss] Geolocation by reference


> GeoRSS has literal locations well covered. A possible use case for
> location by reference (hyperlink really) is coming up in my work and I
> want to run it by this group.
>
> My Pleiades project is collaborating with other digital classics
> projects to build out an ancient history web. Pleiades aims to be the
> authoritative gazetteer for the Greek and Roman civilizations; we
> maintain place name and locations resources that can be linked to from
> other projects for geographic context. For example, see this page on the
> American Numismatic Society web site about a coin from the Xanthos mint:
>
> http://publicserver.numismatics.org/collection/accnum/list?accnum=1977.158.477&single=1
>
> The developers of the site are harvesting coordinates from the Pleiades
> Xanthos record (http://pleiades.stoa.org/places/639166) and will be
> turning them around for use in their own GeoRSS feed (of mints). It
> works, but it's a fair amount of effort that has to be reimplemented
> from site to site across our little history web.
>
> I think there may be cause here to add more declarative syntax to the
> georss:where element. My initial idea is that georss:where could have an
> optional src attribute exactly as atom:content can. The value of the src
> attribute should be the URI of a GML document. Like so:
>
>  <atom:entry>
>  ...
>  <where src="http://example.com/locations/1.gml"/>
>  </atom:entry>
>
> where the resource at http://example.com/locations/1.gml would be
>
>  ...
>  <gml:Point>...</gml:Point>
>
> In this way the numismatists can reuse the authoritative Pleiades
> locations and need neither maintain their own duplicate database nor
> continually synch against Pleiades resources. The synchronization could
> become built in.
>
> There is precedent in Atom for remote sourcing, but only to my knowledge
> for atom:content. The src attribute feels pretty good to me, though I do
> think that it has the potential to make location (which is metadata) a
> bit too much of content (data). Does anybody have other ideas for
> non-literal locations?
>
> Sean
>
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