[georss] "When" information in georss

[Ron Lake]

Hi Andrew:

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with Carl?

R

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-----Original Message-----
From: georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org
[mailto:georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Turner
Sent: August 6, 2007 1:33 PM
To: Carl Reed OGC Account
Cc: georss at lists.eogeo.org
Subject: Re: [georss] "When" information in georss

On 8/6/07, Carl Reed OGC Account <creed at opengeospatial.org> wrote:
> Why not GML? There is a rapidly growing international movement in
various
> scientific and research communities (such as Oceans monitoring and
> environmental monitoring) to enable and make web accessible (via
standard
> interfaces) numerous sensor networks using the new OGC Sensor
Observation
> Service (SOS) and/or WFS. Both return GML responses.

The primary reason was approachability and understandability by a
broad range of developers. i.e. someone creating a feed about concert
events.

Rons post does a good succint job of a simple example:

http://geoweb.blog.com/494471/
<gml:TimePeriod>
    <gml:begin>2003-02-13T12:28-08:00</gml:begin>
    <gml:end>2003-02-13T12:30-08:00</gml:end>
<gml:TimePeriod>

Also worth pointing out is the the GML TimePeriod uses ISO8601, and
Atom uses RFC3339 - which is a subset of ISO8601. so that jives nicely
with Atom


> Would be nice to be consistent.
>
> Just wondering.
>
> Carl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Turner" <ajturner at highearthorbit.com>
> To: "Sean Gillies" <sgillies at frii.com>
> Cc: <georss at lists.eogeo.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [georss] "When" information in georss
>
>
> > b/c the current Time specification doesn't actually specify
including
> > the time element in the response. This is similar to the Geo that
uses
> > GeoRSS, and not OpenSearch-Geo, to specify the geographic search
> > parameters.
> >
> > I was hoping for a more generic definition of time (not even
> > necessarily bound to geo* - so not GML), but RSS or Atom don't
support
> > that it appears (which is actually kind of surprising?
> >
> > On 8/1/07, Sean Gillies <sgillies at frii.com> wrote:
> >> Andrew Turner wrote:
> >> > On 7/29/07, Sean Gillies <sgillies at frii.com> wrote:
> >> >> The time period that the feed is valid for for ... that would be
> >> >> published/updated up until *now* right? It seems that the best
way to
> >> >> indicate a future limit would be for the feed's origin server to
set
> >> >> an
> >> >> "Expires" HTTP header. That would be going with the grain of the
Web.
> >> >
> >> > I may have requested a feed for another, arbitrary time period,
say
> >> > 4-20-2007 > 5-15-2007
> >> >
> >> > And relying on just the HTTP headers means that I then lose that
> >> > information if I store the file. So like GeoRSS feeds can have a
> >> > geometry that applies to the entire feed, it would be nice to use
the
> >> > timespan to define a timespan for the entire feed. This is
especially
> >> > important if I request a feed for that month, even if there are
only
> >> > items for a week in the middle. The feed still is of the entire
month.
> >> >
> >> > Brian - can you put that example as a page on the GeoRSS CMS?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Andrew
> >> >
> >>
> >> Andrew,
> >>
> >> Assuming you're using OpenSearch to request a feed using a temporal
> >> query, could you not rely on the os:Query element that you would
include
> >> in the response?
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
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