[georss] Multiple GeoRSS representations in one feed?

Ron Lake rlake at galdosinc.com
Fri Oct 20 13:27:18 EDT 2006


We are working on Yahoo.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Cappelaere [mailto:pat at cappelaere.com] 
Sent: October 20, 2006 10:25 AM
To: Ron Lake; Andrew Turner
Cc: Allan Doyle; georss at lists.eogeo.org
Subject: Re: [georss] Multiple GeoRSS representations in one feed?

And then if we could get Yahoo to support that , we would be down to 1.
And then we could even use the GML to define coverages...
Pat.

> From: Ron Lake <rlake at galdosinc.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:01:33 -0700
> To: Andrew Turner <georss at highearthorbit.com>, Pat Cappelaere
> <pat at cappelaere.com>
> Cc: Allan Doyle <adoyle at eogeo.org>, <georss at lists.eogeo.org>
> Conversation: [georss] Multiple GeoRSS representations in one feed?
> Subject: RE: [georss] Multiple GeoRSS representations in one feed?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would have to point out (not to suggest a revisit of an old argument)
that
> having Simple and GML with different grammars is not really simple and
that
> using GML Point,LineString while slightly more verbose than simple, would
> for the simple people, and the simple developers really make life more
> simple.
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org
[mailto:georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org]
> On Behalf Of Andrew Turner
> Sent: October 20, 2006 6:09 AM
> To: Pat Cappelaere
> Cc: Allan Doyle; georss at lists.eogeo.org
> Subject: Re: [georss] Multiple GeoRSS representations in one feed?
> 
> I think Allan's question was about publishing multiple feeds using
> different formats. So Jason, for example, could publish a Simple using
> points, and then a more complex using GML or Simple with lines. Both
> feeds would have the same items, just different representations of the
> geographic data.
> 
> What actually would be interesting, is if there is any problem
> publishing 2 representations in the same feed? RSS parsers ignore
> items they don't understand, so the Simple point readers would ignore
> the GML. And perhaps a more featured GML parser should consume the
> "highest fidelity" geometry from a single item. So the GML ring would
> override the Simple point.
> 
> Any particular problems with this? Or is it just confusing?
> 
> The potential problem with multiple feeds w/ different representations
> is that if a user wants to switch the feeds from Simple to GML in
> their reader, are the "read/unread" kept (GUID's the same), etc.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On 10/20/06, Pat Cappelaere <pat at cappelaere.com> wrote:
>> Allan,
>> 
>> It is not unusual for us to display more than one feed on the map.  They
> are
>> displayed on different layers so they can be turned on/off.
>> This is really no different than feature layers.
>> Pat.
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Allan Doyle <adoyle at eogeo.org>
>>> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:30:38 -0400
>>> To: <georss at lists.eogeo.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [georss] Multiple GeoRSS representations in one feed?
>>> 
>>> I guess I have to wonder also to what extent it's bad to have two
>>> feeds? If we try to cram everything into one representation, then we
>>> climb up the complexity wall again and leave the simple people (like
>>> me) behind.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2006, at 07:23, Raj Singh wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As Ron said, holes in polygons aren't supported in simple, but are
>>>> possible in GeoRSS GML. You'll still have the chicken and egg issue
>>>> that you're not likely to find many clients (that aren't "real"
>>>> mapping systems) that will correctly render them. That, and
>>>> aggregates, begin to stretch the limits of GeoRSS. If those
>>>> sophisticated geometries are key to what you're doing, you may be in
>>>> the market for a heavier standard, like GML Simple Features Profile,
>>>> listed on this page <http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/gml>.
>>>> ---
>>>> Raj
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Jason Birch wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any way to represent donut polygons in simple?  I can just
>>>>> provide the exterior ring, but it would be nice to put holes where
>>>>> they belong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And aggregates... I have quite a few parcels that were split by
>>>>> roads, and are actually part of the same legal feature.  I don't
>>>>> really need to have them joined as a MultiGeometry, but I can't
>>>>> tell from the XSD whether multiple geometries are allowed inside
>>>>> the "where".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>> 
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