[georss] raster images and relationshiptag

Raj Singh raj at rajsingh.org
Sat May 20 02:11:25 EDT 2006


Josh, I like the idea of using the atom:link element hooks to do cool stuff:
http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#eleme
nt.link

Imagine:
<atom:link rel="via" href="http://wms request URL goes here..."/>

But why put the link element in the <where>?
Actually, why not just put Web Map Context documents in <where>?

--
Raj

On 5/19/06 11:33 AM, "Jeroen Ticheler" <Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> Not sure if I understand this, its Friday 5:30PM so my brain is
> shutting down for the weekend ;-)
> 
> Anyway, I just wanted to say I think Mike's idea is interesting. I
> see 1 problem and that is that in my GeoRSS the RSS contains an image
> that is just a thumbnail. I would be very interested in seeing the
> footprints of the related metadata be correctly displayed with a
> simple (non-filled) box and than see the thumbnail when selecting a
> BBOX. At the same time I could see another URL in the feed doing just
> what Mike mentioned (even a simple GetMap request URL could be part
> of the RSS and function as an image as mentioned by Mike :-) )
> 
> Ciao,
> Jeroen
> 
> On May 19, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Josh at oklieb wrote:
> 
>> Thinking about this, I can see cases for two alternatives:
>> 
>> 1) Allow / suggest optional rss:enclosure or atom:link element(s)
>> inside of georss:where so that the link to be associated with the
>> location is clear. This could also be used to reference a web map
>> context document or the map view most useful for interpreting the
>> located content of the item / entry. This makes sense where the
>> handler for the linked resource has to be geo-aware anyway. The
>> atom:link element is more useful here since it includes "rel"
>> attribute which can identify what the resource represents. It does
>> have the complication of requiring rss and atom schemas to be
>> referenced from georss (complicated in that normative XML Schema
>> for these does not exist).
>> 
>> 2) Allow / suggest georss:where or more likely georss:point /
>> georss:box as content for  rss:enclosure or atom:link elements.
>> This would more clearly provide an optional location for existing
>> media references, easier for a non-geo feed processor to deal with.
>> This does require a somewhat "non-standard" extension to rss or
>> atom, since content for the enclosure or ink elements is undefined
>> and extension points are only defined in atom for the feed, entry,
>> and person elements.
>> 
>> These are probably not exclusive alternatives, but are valuable for
>> different situations.
>> 
>> -Josh
>> 
>> On May 19, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Josh at oklieb wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting idea. Could you provide an example of a feed using
>>> this? People are clearly using RSS to reference a variety of media
>>> resources (e.g. podcasts) and it would be important to support
>>> interoperable ways of clearly associating a location to the
>>> referenced resource so that a client can throw them on a map with
>>> both an interpretable style and the right links.
>>> 
>>> BTW, the tag in the georss schema is named "relationshipTag"...
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Josh Lieberman
>>> 
>>> On May 19, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Mikel Maron wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anselm Hook and I were talking here at XTech about rasters in
>>>> GeoRSS, and came up with a use for the "relationshiptype" tag, to
>>>> specify that a box geometry designates the bounding box of an
>>>> image refernced in a RSS item. For example..
>>>> 
>>>> <entry>
>>>>   <title>Georeferenced Image</title>
>>>>   <id>#1234</id>
>>>> 
>>>>   <georss:where relationshiptype="image-extent">
>>>>     <gml:Envelope>
>>>>        <gml:lowerCorner>42.943 -71-32</gml:lowerCorner>
>>>>        <gml:upperCorner>43.039 -69.856</gml:upperCorner>
>>>>     </gml:Envelope>
>>>>   </georss:where>
>>>>  </entry>
>>>> 
>>>> This seems like it could be pretty useful, but not something I've
>>>> thought of before. For example, many people were sharing aerial
>>>> images of New Orleans post-hurricane in KML. Imagine being able
>>>> to subscribe to a feed in a disaster zone, containing polygons
>>>> and points of affected areas, locations of aid delivery points,
>>>> and up to date imagery.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> -Mikel
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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