[georss] RE: Drafty timeline for GeoRSS
Allan Doyle
adoyle at eogeo.org
Wed May 3 20:13:04 EDT 2006
This might be a bit over the top in terms of detail. I'm also not
sure it's possible to put a laser-like focus on what is clearly an
example of standing on the shoulders of giants.
On May 3, 2006, at 18:42, Carl Reed OGC Account wrote:
> All -
>
> Below is a draft timeline for the current instance of GeoRSS. I
> have checked with several folks but know I have missed key dates,
> may not have correct info, or am missing key elements.
>
> Please check over and let me know of any additions, deletions, etc.
>
> I apologize in advance for any ommisions. Timelines are good so
> that we can capture info now and update as we go so that there is
> not confusion in the future.
>
> Regards
>
> Carl
Here is some material that pre-dates Carl's first date.
1985
----
The original reference of locating things on the net is the ICBM tag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICBM_address and the earliest use of it
that I can find on Google is on July 1, 1985 - http://
groups.google.com/group/net.jokes/browse_thread/thread/
c5ebc505a6af0908/e4775bb9cf31c7ea?
lnk=st&q=icbm&rnum=3&hl=en#e4775bb9cf31c7ea
This might be a session-based URL, so you can do your own search.
Search Google Groups for icbm between 1981 and August 1, 1985, sorted
by date. It should come out near the top.
Paul Pomes, the person whose message the ICBM appears in seems to be
at UIUC - search for his name at http://webtools.uiuc.edu/ricker/PH
ICBM is referred to in later efforts and is still in use today in
HTTP META tags, I believe.
1994-1996
---------
MATT, developed in 1994-1996 (I was the lead developer/architect) had
the concept if "info-bullets" that tagged content to a specific
location. See http://openmap.bbn.com/OpenMap(tm)/MATT/ for a 1996
description. Info-bullets could themselves contain URLs so this was
an early attempt to peg web content to a location. The MATT
installation came with its own copy of NCSA httpd to support info-
bullets - http://openmap.bbn.com/projects/matt/install/
MATT_Install_Version_4.0.html
1996
----
RFC 1876 provides location information in DNS records. Again, a form
of trying to tag location on the net. Note that both ICBM and RFC1876
are about locating devices, not about tagging content with location.
>
> 1997 - Dave Winer "plays around" with web feeds.
>
> 1998: RFC 2445 – iCalander, released as an Internet standard. Has a
> simple
> location syntax for a point geometry. This is relevant because it
> appears
> that the W3C geo syntax is based on the one in iCalander.
1999 April - geotags.com registered (see 2000 February) by Andrew
Daviel of Richmond, BC, Canada
>
> 1999 RSS “invented” – Netscape RSS v 0.9 released
2000 February: Geotags.com http://web.archive.org/web/20000226130843/
http://geotags.com/
Andrew Daviel of Richmond, BC, Canada
>
> 2001: Internet draft submitted to the IETF Geo-registration
> (geotagging) of
> HTML documents, Kaegi and Daviel. Never became a standard but
> significant
> because it appears to build on the iCalander systax but is much
> richer and
> more semantically rigorous.
>
> 2001 February: Yahoo geowanking discussion list. Minor discussion
> on how to
> link an RSS message to a geographic location.
>
> 2002: GeoURL concept established - geotagging of URL locations.
> www.geourl.com
>
> 2002 July: RDFMap (Chris Goad): First known instance of geoenabling
> an RSS
> document. http://www.mapbureau.com/rdfmap0.91/index.html .
> Interestnig to
> note that the developers also checked out GML 2.x, used the
> geometry model
> but modified the syntax so that it would work with RDF.
>
> 2003 January: First version of the W3C "geo" vocabulary/syntax
> published.
> geo is a simple microformat (RDF based) for geotagging web content
> using a
> point geometry
See http://rdfig.xmlhack.com/
2003/01/09/2003-01-09.html#1042129747.716114 for a little more on
this. Jo Walsh's work is credited but I don't know what the date of
her work is. See also http://space.frot.org/news.html
2003 March: http://web.archive.org/web/20030418025743/http://
thereandthen.org/
http://web.archive.org/web/20030418145345/thereandthen.org/docs/
index.html
2003 April: Daniel Smith at http://ThereAndThen.org talks about
geotagging photos:
Hi, I'm Daniel Smith, and my interest grew out of wanting to tag
photos with location/time info. It was good to meet those of you who
were at etech this week, and to see some of the projects at the BOF
last night. Just trying to get a handle on what all of the current
projects are, and how some of them might fit together. I wrote up an
idea that some of you have seen: http://ThereAndThen.org (yes, I need
to address its use in an RSS context.. the doc needs en edit after
what I have taken in this week) I'd be keen to hear any feedback on
it. I think it's great that so many are circling around different
aspects of location/time from different angles. cheers, Daniel p.s.
thanks Anselm for getting the GEO BOF together -- Daniel L. Smith
You have to look at the google cache here, too. He's clearly been
around a while. He owns http://daniel.org/
>
> 2003 May. First known instance of the use of the term "georss". In
> an email
> in the geowanking discussion list.
>
> 2003 July: Harvard releases RSS 2.0
>
> 2004 Summer: geowanking discussion list on the concept of a geourl
> molecule
> code. This would be a microformat for tagging content.
2003 October: Mike Liebhold rambles about "web map interop",
lamenting that "On the web hypermedia side we have no standard
geocodes ( geourl is a good start),.."
You have to search for "site:lists.burri.to liebhold rss" on google,
then use their cache. The burri.to site does not have the original
anymore. It's a good ramble.
>
> 2004 Raj presented a paper on GeoBlogging in the summer of 2004 at
> URISA's
> Public Particiation and GIS conference in which he mentions the georss
> concept:
> http://web.mit.edu/rajsingh/www/cmp/collabmaps/Singh-GeoBlogging.pdf.
>
> 2004 During the summer of 2004, Raj, Josh, Allan, and others discussed
Others = Tony Pryor, at the time at MIT
> geoenabling feeds during the Boston area GIS Interest Group meeting.
>
> 2005 February: At Location Intelligence, Carl had a meeting with
> Dave Sonnen
> in which we discussed light-weight geospatial payloads and
> standards related
> work being done in the IETF.
>
> 2005 April: George, Ron, and Carl write a draft GML Point Profile.
>
> 2005 March: At the BAAMA Symposium, Carl had dinner with Mike
> Leibold and we
> discussed the concept of geo-enabling (or geotagging) light weight
> payloads
> as part of Web 2.0 and the geospatial web, including web feeds.
>
> 2005 July. Raj, Josh, and Allan decided to go for georss.
> Raj Singh registers the georss.org domain on 7/20/2005. This could be
> considered the official start date of the current georss initiative.
> Allan Doyle sets up the georss server on an eogeo machine over the
> next
> couple of days.
>
> 2005 Summer: Raj Singh stands up georss.mit.edu feeds application.
>
> 2005 July: The IETF releases ATOM 1.0 as an internet standard.
>
> 2005 August: Then in August 7th and 8th, Raj and Carl had an email
> exchange
> on ATOM and how we might have missed the boat in terms of providing
> input to
> geo-enable ATOM. This led me to have a dialogue with Tim Bray
> (major enabler
> for the development of the ATOM spec) geoenabling ATOM.
>
> 2005 August: All this led to an August 18th teleconference - and I
> am not
> sure who actually who suggested this - to have a brainstorming
> session that
> included Allan D, Josh L, Raj, Ron Lake, and Carl R.. There were
> actually a
> series of teleconferences and emails. Some of the teleconferences
> pre-dated
> the dialogue with Tim Bray.
2005 October: Allan developed the concept of using a content model of
GeoRSS which led to the current understanding of a content model with
serializations in other forms.
http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/georss/2005-October/000113.html
>
> At this point, many others began contributing to the discussion,
> setting
> requirements and so forth.
>
> 2006 January - What we believe to be the first official version
> ready for
> implementation.
>
> 2006 March: Mikel Maron stands up first georss feed validator.
>
> 2006 March: GeoRSS goes to ROME (http://georss.geonames.org/)
>
> 2006 April: GeoRSS Blog is set up.
>
>
> Carl Reed, PhD
> CTO and Executive Director Specification Program
> OGC
>
> The OGC: Helping the World to Communicate Geographically
>
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