[georss] place names

Kralidis,Tom [Burlington] Tom.Kralidis at ec.gc.ca
Thu Jun 8 17:22:28 EDT 2006


 
For placenames / addresses, can we map to what's in http://schemas.opengeospatial.net/ows/1.0.0/ows19115subset.xsd
 
...i.e. ows:AddressType ?
 
..Tom
 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org on behalf of Raj Singh 
	Sent: Thu 08-Jun-06 16:50 
	To: Allan Doyle; georss at lists.eogeo.org 
	Cc: 
	Subject: Re: [georss] place names
	
	

	(I changed the subject to better reflect this discussion)
	
	Marc, I agree that encoding place names would be a really useful next step,
	and Allan's right that the issue can quickly blow up.
	
	But our job shouldn't be to solve the problem of accurate specification of a
	place, but adopt a happy medium that works 90% of the time. This is key
	because the problem usually blows up on those outlier cases.
	
	So I'll lay out a proposal here.
	
	1. adopt a few tags for place, like:
	<address> {street address. As Allan suggests, let developers parse it}
	<town>
	<region> {this equates to, e.g., state in the US or province in Canada)
	<country>
	<planet>
	
	2. use full names for town, region and country referenced to some
	authoritative source
	
	3. there is no 3!
	
	--Raj
	
	
	On 6/8/06 4:40 PM, "Allan Doyle" <adoyle at eogeo.org> wrote:
	
	>
	> On Jun 8, 2006, at 16:20, Marc wrote:
	>
	>> Hi Everybody
	>>
	>> I think we have to be careful not to head too much into the gisRSS
	>> direction. Boxes, polygons and other gis entities are certainly
	>> useful,
	>
	> I'm happy with the set of geometries we have now. I don't see a need
	> for more.
	>
	>> but the huge majority of rss producers and consumers are playing in a
	>> different field. News-feeds, housing-feeds, dating-feeds, job-feeds
	>> and
	>> so on, all of them would be much more useful if aggregators and
	>> rss-reader software could filter, aggregate and group feed items
	>> according to 'geo' entities like country code, state, city, etc.
	>> With a
	>> standard for these encodings geoRSS would make a big step forward, we
	>> just have to be careful not to make it too complicated for the
	>> mainstream user. RSS is after all a 'Really Simple Syndication'.
	>
	> I like the idea of named locations, which is really what an address
	> is. I agree that they are more socially useful than geometries.
	>
	> Trouble is, addresses are hugely complex. I could envision some kind
	> of address blob that can get dropped in. Maybe use the featuretypetag
	> and relationshiptag
	>
	> Let someone else deal with the address parsing. There are some good
	> geocoders out there. Maybe we can convince the geocoder crowd to make
	> nice REST interfaces that take an address and produce a GeoRSS geometry.
	>
	> There could be some set of Really Useful codes. Country code
	> (.de, .ca, etc), Post code (02139, C5G Y0P), Telephone prefix (1,
	> 44). The trouble with codes is that they can become out of date
	> quickly, too. What will the cc for Montenegro be? How long until IETF
	> or ISO catch up and add them? What happens when the code for Serbia-
	> Montenegro goes away?
	>
	> Maybe we just need some more blobish tags to stuff some interesting
	> things into.
	>
	> By way of contrast, look at the hoops the microformat people have to
	> jump through because XHTML doesn't have anything really suitable.
	>
	> Allan
	>
	>>
	>> Just my two cents.
	>>
	>> Marc
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