[georss] GeoRSS for OGC OWS

[Ron Lake]

Hi,

If SOS and SAS were properly based on GML this would be for free (like
it is for WFS).  I believe that this achievable.

Ron

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[mailto:georss-bounces at lists.eogeo.org] On Behalf Of Pat Cappelaere
Sent: August 15, 2006 6:28 PM
To: Josh at oklieb; georss at lists.eogeo.org
Subject: [georss] GeoRSS for OGC OWS

Just wanted to say that I have made a proposal to SWE OWS-4 to adopt
GeoRSS/Atom format as the standard output of all OGC SWE Web services.
This will make our lives easier with the SAS (So we do not have to
re-invent
a new format).  Those messages can then be re-broadcast as feeds, IM,
emails
based on user subscriptions.
So not only WFS but SPS and SOS will generate GeoRSS.
I need some help pushing that through though! :)
Pat.


> From: "Josh at oklieb" <josh at oklieb.net>
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:53:36 -0400
> To: <georss at lists.eogeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [georss] Transport of Toponyms with GeoRSS
> 
> Aye, there's the rub. What is it you are describing with a toponym?
> The resource described by the RSS entry (probably not in general a
> toponym) or the "feature-ness" of the resource which is bestowed upon
> it by GeoRSS.
> 
> It seems you want to construct a link with two characteristics: a
> zoom-in action and a label to suggest what is geographically being
> zoomed in to. The former could be addressed with the "radius"
> attribute; the latter is probably a use case for adding a "name" or
> "featurename" attribute to georss:point / georss:where.
> 
> Just a heads up that applying georss to update w3c geo (and thereby
> also making it more palatable to the microformat-ists) means in all
> likelihood coming up with an rdf serialization of georss. This means
> that the attributes we have hung on the georss properties such as
> georss:point cannot be there (being properties themselves, they can
> only describe a node or concept). This means either turning
> somersaults conceptually or moving the attributes up into separate
> rss properties, e.g. (rss 1.0)
> 
> <item rdf:about=
>        'http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8466?CMP=OTC-TY3388567169'>
>    <title>Live Coverage XML 2005 (Tuesday Keynotes)</title>
>    <link>http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8466?CMP=OTC-TY3388567169</
> link>
>    <description>
>   <![CDATA[A live look at the XML Keynotes and seminal talks.]]>
>    </description>
>    <dc:creator>Kurt Cagle</dc:creator>
>    <dc:date>2005-11-15T07:45:58-08:00</dc:date>
>    <georss:featuretypetag>TGN:City</georss:featuretypetag>
>    <georss:featurename>US_Cities:Albany</georss:featurename>
>    <georss:radius>5000</georss:radius>
>    <georss:point> 46.183 -123.816</georss:point>
> </item>
> 
> In essence, the <title> property describes the item resource, while
> the <georss:featurename>  property describes the item "feature"
> 
> I'll look for the time to explain this more graphically.
> 
> --Josh
> 
> On Aug 15, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Allan Doyle wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2006, at 18:09, noiv wrote:
>> 
>>>> Couldn't you simply use the RSS "title" field for the link?
>>>> 
>>>> Mikel
>>> 
>>> Hi Mikel,
>>> 
>>> thanks for input. Publishers use the title tag as a description
>>> of the content. I think there is no chance to convince for example
>>> Reuters and have toponyms only as title.
>>> 
>>> Which tag is designed to describe the coordinates
>>> of a GeoRSS feed entry in a human readable way?
>>> 
>> 
>> Is this perhaps the difference between RSS and a microformat? My
>> impression is that microformats are meant to encapsulate information
>> that is meant to still show up on the web page whereas RSS is really
>> not meant to be "human readable" in the sense of being shown directly
>> on a web page.
>> 
>> Thus if you have a microformat + CSS, you can see something useful.
>> If you have RSS + CSS that's not always the case, you may also need
>> some XSLT or some other processing to make it "pretty" again.
>> 
>> One of these days we need to work out the microformat serialization
>> of GeoRSS. Ideally by working together with the microformat folks.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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