[georss] Transport of Toponyms with GeoRSS

Josh@oklieb josh at oklieb.net
Tue Aug 15 18:53:36 EDT 2006


Aye, there's the rub. What is it you are describing with a toponym?  
The resource described by the RSS entry (probably not in general a  
toponym) or the "feature-ness" of the resource which is bestowed upon  
it by GeoRSS.

It seems you want to construct a link with two characteristics: a  
zoom-in action and a label to suggest what is geographically being  
zoomed in to. The former could be addressed with the "radius"  
attribute; the latter is probably a use case for adding a "name" or  
"featurename" attribute to georss:point / georss:where.

Just a heads up that applying georss to update w3c geo (and thereby  
also making it more palatable to the microformat-ists) means in all  
likelihood coming up with an rdf serialization of georss. This means  
that the attributes we have hung on the georss properties such as  
georss:point cannot be there (being properties themselves, they can  
only describe a node or concept). This means either turning  
somersaults conceptually or moving the attributes up into separate  
rss properties, e.g. (rss 1.0)

<item rdf:about=
       'http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8466?CMP=OTC-TY3388567169'>
   <title>Live Coverage XML 2005 (Tuesday Keynotes)</title>
   <link>http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8466?CMP=OTC-TY3388567169</ 
link>
   <description>
	   <![CDATA[A live look at the XML Keynotes and seminal talks.]]>
   </description>
   <dc:creator>Kurt Cagle</dc:creator>
   <dc:date>2005-11-15T07:45:58-08:00</dc:date>
   <georss:featuretypetag>TGN:City</georss:featuretypetag>
   <georss:featurename>US_Cities:Albany</georss:featurename>
   <georss:radius>5000</georss:radius>
   <georss:point> 46.183 -123.816</georss:point>
</item>

In essence, the <title> property describes the item resource, while  
the <georss:featurename>  property describes the item "feature"

I'll look for the time to explain this more graphically.

--Josh

On Aug 15, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Allan Doyle wrote:

>
> On Aug 15, 2006, at 18:09, noiv wrote:
>
>>> Couldn't you simply use the RSS "title" field for the link?
>>>
>>> Mikel
>>
>> Hi Mikel,
>>
>> thanks for input. Publishers use the title tag as a description
>> of the content. I think there is no chance to convince for example
>> Reuters and have toponyms only as title.
>>
>> Which tag is designed to describe the coordinates
>> of a GeoRSS feed entry in a human readable way?
>>
>
> Is this perhaps the difference between RSS and a microformat? My
> impression is that microformats are meant to encapsulate information
> that is meant to still show up on the web page whereas RSS is really
> not meant to be "human readable" in the sense of being shown directly
> on a web page.
>
> Thus if you have a microformat + CSS, you can see something useful.
> If you have RSS + CSS that's not always the case, you may also need
> some XSLT or some other processing to make it "pretty" again.
>
> One of these days we need to work out the microformat serialization
> of GeoRSS. Ideally by working together with the microformat folks.
>
> 	Allan
>
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